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Getting Excited for Hunger Games 3 with the Hunger Games 2 Image

As we Hunger Games fans scrounge around for any news about our beloved Mockingjay, we got a few more bread crumbs in the October edition of Empire magazine.

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Yes! News about Hunger Games 3! Wait. Are you new, Empire?

Well, not really. But using Hunger Games and then a number is a big pet peeve of fans. Granted, the official title of the film, The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1 is a REALLY long title. You can’t expect THAT to be used all the time. And Mockingjay by itself doesn’t mean much if you’re not familiar with the books. I don’t mind the use of Hunger Games on the cover. It’s the main brand of the stories/films. But right next to it they put Exodus: Gods and Kings.  Would it really have been so hard to find a way for Hunger Games: Mockingjay to work?

The naming issue wasn’t the only thing to irk fans though. The BIGGER wound is that they use A STILL FROM CATCHING FIRE on the cover. What happened here? Seeing above the use of Hunger Games 3, Empire is trying to remind people quickly about this movie.  So Hunger Games AND the lead – Katniss.  If they had used one of the Coin/Plutarch stills from May this could have confused non-fans. Beyond that, THIS IS THE COVER. YOU PUT THE STAR ON THE COVER. And the only still of Katniss in Mockingjay that has been released yet is the one from Entertainment Weekly’s Fall Movie Preview.  Did EW still have exclusive rights to it and that’s why you’ve got good ol’ Quarter Quell Training Katniss here? And since the article inside is just a short tease with very little new information, I guess we shouldn’t expect much on the cover either. But it stings that they used a still from the prior movie to promote Mockingjay in the October edition of their magazine. If it were a January edition promoting the whole year’s movies, ok that’s totally understandable.  There’s still 10 months to go. But for an October magazine of a movie opening in November, it’s just mind-boggling. What is going on here?

Which leads into the whole “where is Katniss?” refrain that’s been floating throughout the fandom all summer. The main two themes in the fandom for months have been “where is the trailer?” followed closely by “Is Katniss even in this movie?” Now that we’ve gotten a character poster of pretty much every main player except Katniss, we know it’s coming soon.  Though it seems I’ve been writing about “soon” since March, so we must always be careful to keep those expectations in check.

Fans are left to wonder at what the strategy was here – is this attempt to be REAAALY in-universe and have us pretend that Katniss is dead? But we all know she isn’t because Beetee told us that in early July. And if you’re completely out of it you’ve still seen her for a few seconds in the teaser trailer showing us that yes, indeed, THE MOCKINGJAY LIVES. How long is this game supposed to last?

Or does this no-Katniss approach have nothing to do with the storyline of the in-universe marketing at all? Rather, maybe it’s an attempt to keep the suspense by revealing as little as possible about the thing people want the most? Then, finally in October through November bombard the world with Katniss everywhere?  All we can do is speculate and hope that it happens before the November magazines come out.

No more Hunger Games 2 stills please.

JJ

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The Mockingjay Full-Theatrical-2:30-No-More-Teasers Trailer Wishlist

In celebration of Jennifer Lawrence’s birthday today, I am going to wish her a happy day of not being bothered by people that usually bother her and then move on to other fandom topics.

Please show us Katniss in a couple other scenes.

Please show us Katniss in a couple other scenes.

We are now 97 days until Mockingjay Part 1 hits theaters and I know we all would really really like a full trailer about now. The teasers and viral videos were fab, but we would really like a full 2 minute 30 second trailer of goodness to get us excited for the film. There’s lots of other things, like more character posters, that would increase the excitement as well. But the big thing we’re dying for is that LONG AWAITED full trailer. Lionsgate’s CEO mentioned last week that they anticipate Mockingjay Part 1 will be the most successful film in the franchise so far. Releasing a big, exciting trailer would probably be a good way to get the more general audience to start thinking about their movie plans in November.

So here it is, a wishlist for this next trailer:

  • That it be a full, 2 minute 30 second trailer. NO MORE SHORT TEASER TRAILERS PLEASE. Save those for the 30 sec/1 min tv spots later on.
  • That we see it before the end of August.
  • Multiple shots/scenes featuring KATNISS EVERDEEN
  • Katniss/Coin subtle face-off
  • Haymitch and Katniss scene – can be contentious or comforting. Just them together.
  • A book quote or two.
  • ACTION SCENES to help dissuade the Mockingjay nay-sayers that the movie will be “boring.”
  • New supporting characters in the actions scenes – doesn’t have to be much if you’re so keen on this secrecy stuff, but give us some Boggs and Co.
  • Peeta and Johanna (and Annie?) in the Capitol in some way. We don’t necessarily need to see bad things happening to Peeta, but it WOULD be powerful/emotional way to amp up the tension. And make the fandom go crazy with the feels.
  • If you show Katniss/Gale kissage, more than balance that out with Katniss and other characters talking about how Peeta is important. We’ve more or less avoided “Peeta Paranoia” so far – let’s keep it that way.
  • Oh, and did we mention multiple shots/scenes featuring KATNISS EVERDEEN?

What did we miss?

97 days and counting. And we’re so tired of waiting.

JJ

 

 

The Mockingjay’s Non-Reveal

The headline makes your heart jump “New Still of Katniss from The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1″? Could it be?! Is it really here?!

Sorta. Kinda… Not really.

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Yes, it is technically the first still of Katniss released by Lionsgate. But no, it’s really not new. Something very similar to the still has been all over the Internet for weeks already because it’s same scene featuring Katniss from the trailer, which has been screencapped second-by-second and passed around the fandom like candy. Screencaps are basically fandom crack.

Thanks to the article, we are noticing the little details of her look that we didn’t before: the connections to her Mockingjay look, her elbow and knee pads (probably more for Jennifer Lawrence’s benefit than Katniss’, if her claims to clumsiness are true!), etc.

And the blackened Mockingjay pin! It’s such a silly thing to zero in on, especially considering it’s almost impossible to see in the picture, but we love it. We wonder how long before those start going on sale and how many fans will go a-runnin’ to their nearest retailer to get one. Hint: Just take your gold Mockingjay pin and hit it with some shiny black spray paint, people!

We’re excited, but we’re not. Our Mockingjay is readily available in shiny photo finish, but this isn’t the glorious new shot of Katniss Everdeen for which we’d been hoping. We wanted to be wow-ed by the photo as much as we were the trailer itself. And let’s call a spade a spade– If it looks like something we just saw two weeks ago, it isn’t actually new!

In video form, this scene was tense and exciting. In photo form, it’s more of the same. Katniss looks confused and you worry for her a bit, but it doesn’t elicit the same emotion. We want an image of Katniss that really causes us to feel. The clip already dictated what we feel here. WE DEMAND NEW FEELS!

Is That Too Much?!
The Girl With The Pearl

The Hackings by District 13 Have Been Great… But Can You Please PLEASE Just Show Us Our Mockingjay?

We had a lot of things on our wishlist for Mockingjay promotion, and right at the top of it was to incorporate the hacking storyline. And it’s been fun to watch so far.

We got Beetee hacking the Capitol propaganda.

THE MOCKINGJAY LIVES. YES.

Then a surprise hacking of the notes of the Mockingjay tune on twitter.

THE MOCKINGJAY SINGS. YES.

And then the source code of thecapitol.pn said this:

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THE MOCKINGJAY LIVES. Well you already told us that, but we understand. It’s a rallying cry and a dope hashtag. SO YES. GOOD.

And then last week the Capitol Concerns page changed from “The Capitol is Listening” to “The Capitol is Lying.”

 

The Capitol is Lying

DAMN STRAIGHT, THEY LIE.

Update: A few minutes after I originally posted this, the skins on the social media accounts were changed to this.

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AHHH. MORE PROGRESS.

A slow and steady wearing down of the defenses, led by that genius Beetee over the past month. The question we want to know now is WHEN IS THE BIG PAYOFF? And perhaps WHAT IS THE BIG PAYOFF being the secondary question.

For me, I just really want some legit rebel propaganda, and specifically that’s Katniss in the Cinna-designed Mockingjay suit. If you squint when Katniss is walking through the hospital you can get an idea of it.

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It’s hard to tell since the hospital is dark, her suit is dark, and it’s a wide shot. But it looks really form-fitting, and like armor (thankfully, effective armor, cause, you know. District 2). It seems like Beetee has gotten quite adept at getting through the Capitol’s security. And he’s certainly got our attention.

Now we’re ready to be inspired.

JJ

TRAILER REACTION: Our Leader The Mockingjay

The first traditional trailer for THE HUNGER GAMES: MOCKINGJAY PART 1 is finally here!

That means two things:

  1. Congratulations Glenn, the winner of our Third Anniversary Guess The Trailer contest! He won a Catching Fire fan camp poster signed by Josh Hutcherson, Sam Claflin, Jena Malone, and Jeffrey Wright!
  2. OMG IT’S TRAILER REACTION TIME!

So watch the trailer again and prepare for pure, exuberant fangirl reaction!

Remember, our reaction posts get kinda long, so most of this baby is under the cut! Also.. SPOILERS. DUH. (All screencaps courtesy of Jabberjays.net!)

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Yep. A little haunting.

IN WHICH THE TRAILER DARKENS OUR SOULS
The Girl With The Pearl: Let’s start with the usual– describe the trailer in one word!
There Them Eyes: Teasing
JJ: You took mine… I’ll say appropriate?
TGWTP: I’ll go with haunting. Which is not my usual direction with these, because trailers usually make me giddy.
TTE: PSH
JJ: Ok haunting is better But for me, it did its job. It set the stage for what the movie’s about.
TGWTP: Which is scary, messed up shizz
TTE: There’s nothing happy about Mockingjay… ok, wait… yes there are happy points, but it’s not full of as many light moments as the previous stories.
TGWTP: And yes, PSH was a big part of the haunting feel, though not the only reason for it
JJ: But no it didn’t make me dance around the room. It was much more dark. But yes, the subject matter here is a whole different level
TTE: Even the trailer music is somber.

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EEEEEEEVIL, WE SAY!

PLUTARCH, COIN, AND A SHOWDOWN WITH FICTIONAL CRITICS
TGWTP: Where you surprised that they opened it with Plutarch and Coin?
JJ: Before I was spoiled?
TGWTP: Yes LOL
JJ: Yes, I was surprised with it. But I think it was a good choice. So much of the movie is Plutarch and Coin’s planning.
TTE: Pleasantly surprised. Oh, wait.. I was the only one who was surprised?! This is what happens when you work all day, and don’t spend a lot of that time searching Twitter!
JJ: Twitter is life, ok?
TTE: Twitter is… yeah, I’ll leave my Twitter opinions at the virtual door.
TGWTP: Maybe it’s just me, but I got the feeling Coin will be more openly eeeeevil in the films. She had one line and I was like “YOU DECEITFUL WENCH!”
JJ: Hmm. Yes, maybe they don’t want there to be any doubt that she’s a baddie to avoid confusion for those non-book readers
TGWTP: True. Anyone who sees her as ambivalent or possibly decent will be raging about the end.
TTE: I think having Coin and Plutarch being the first characters we see in the trailer is a very strategic move. It’s playing both on the mythology of the series, which will make fans happy. But to newbies, seeing Julianne Moore and Philip Seymour Hoffman is a draw, sort of like “Whoa, it’s those people! They’re in this… take my money!!”
JJ: TAKE THIS MOVIE SERIOUSLY!
TTE: Stop calling it the next WHATEVER! If you want to call it the next Star Wars… sure, fine– but stop with the teen drama comparisons.
TGWTP: You’re not too cool for fantasy, jackass!
TGWTP: I love yelling at this fictional critic person!
TTE: Fictional critic person looks like a troll and we love to poke him.

Is this just here to piss off Peacekeepers? We doubt many district rebels are airbourne!

Is this just here to piss off Peacekeepers? We doubt many district rebels are airborne!

THIS REBELLION IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE X-FILES
TGWTP: Anywayyyyy… Next, we get district drama! Starting with— How long do you think it would take a person to pull off that crop circle?
TTE: One night.
JJ: It was not people. It was aliens. Plot twist!
TGWTP: OMG DISTRICT 13 IS FULL OF ALIENS MASQUERADING AS PEOPLE!
JJ: Explains a lot, right?
TGWTP: YES.
TGWTP: And how did they get it so accurate?!
TTE: How you make a crop circle accurately: You take geometry in high school, ace it, and then use those skills. I learned this from The X-Files.
JJ: Or aliens.
TGWTP: That was probably the only part of the trailer that allowed me to be happy. Death, depression, distrust, CROP CIRCLE!
JJ: Yes, that was a bit weird now that you mention it, but a cool effect.
TTE: I know I think I texted JJ, like “Well, that crop circle thing is pretty cool.”

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Katniss Everdeen and Girls Who Obviously Do Things #LikeAGirl

Dear ladies,

In case you didn’t already know it, we’re gross. So much so that the whole advertising world is busy telling us how gross we are in an effort to help us conceal our unholy level of disgusting, because we should totally be ashamed!

These companies sell us (and in part help create) our insecurities. But don’t worry! Then they empower us! How, you ask? By making us feel insecure about having said insecurities, of course!

Thankfully, The Hunger Games isn’t like that. They may sell clothes, makeup, and nail polish that represent the selfish, ignorant elitists of the tale that should in no way be glorified. They may try to sell us elongated sandwiches full of irony to promote a film about the struggles of the starving and underprivileged. They may soften the collective fan experience by only letting people who possess certain technologies or live near certain stores get exclusive early access. But they would never exploit Katniss’ gender as a means to pander to a false empowerment campa— OH WAIT.

*blink blink* WHAT?

First off, as many fans have discussed several times over on every Hunger Games related form on the Internet– Katniss Everdeen does things LIKE A GUY. One of the most interesting thing about her is that she transcends gender stereotypes by taking on traditionally masculine roles. If anything, Peeta is the one who does things #LikeAGirl.

Don’t get us wrong– we still think Katniss has a hefty dose of femininity and is a great role model. But she can be a great role model for ANYONE, not just girls. If Katniss and Peeta’s genders were reversed, the main character would still be a great role model. To say that her accomplishments matter BECAUSE she is a woman and that she should inspire girls any more than boys is just ludicrous.

Does she get super secret strength just from having her monthly period? Is that what makes her such a great hunter, strategist, and leader? DID WE MISS THAT PART OF THE NOVELS?!

Also, this totally fails to empower us. It has the opposite effect:

  • Katniss Everdeen is made of pure awesome. She fights for justice, leads a nation, and creates a new way of life for the entire populace of a struggling society.. and hey, she’s a woman!
  • Well, I’m a woman and I do none of those things. Therefore, I SUCK. And don’t dare try to tell me I could sway the nation and lead a bloody human rights revolution right now, because then you’re just lying.

Then Always jumps in to really drive that point home:

Yikes.

We really, really hope this isn’t a long-term, ongoing partnership with this brand. It’s straight up patronizing: “Oh look, she’s a strong, heroic leader AND a woman! Let’s all stop and treat that like an anomaly!”

A major facet in Katniss’ likability factor is that she hates misleading campaigns that paint her as a false hero for the people. In a strange way, that’s what makes her a real hero.

It’s painful to equate that Katniss’ success and power to the fact that she, just like all the other women out there, survives that time of the month. In fact, it gives us cramps. Katniss never seems to get cramps. Dammit, we can’t ever measure up to this chick!

All in all, we think our friend Joan said it best when it comes to the premise of this whole campaign:

And There Goes The One Topic We Never Thought We’d Come Across Here,
The Girl With The Pearl

Applicability, Schapplicability: More Mockingjay Musings

We’ve got BONUS guest posts for you this week! Check out another Mockingjay musing from Satsuma, who sees plenty of opportunity of historical parallels in the final two films!

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Here I am, trying to make more predictions about the MJ movies. My last post dealt with their possible approach to romance. This one focuses more on the politics. Specifically, whether the movies will continue to make references to historical political events that have parallels to what happens in Panem.

Sometimes we forget that people actually LIVED here

Sometimes we forget that people actually LIVED here

I say “continue to”, because both THG and CF seemed to make a directed effort to make viewers consider the parallels, in many subtle ways. Maybe it’s just me, but the “Capitol = Rome” set-up SC created seems to have actually taken a back seat, with more modern examples of tyranny and oppression being focused on more. We have the Capitol set design from THG, inspired by “brutalist” architecture used by the Nazi’s, as well as Tianamen Square; and the use of Henry River Mill village, a real life “company town” (though for a different industry than coal) for the Seam.

And while this isn’t expressly political, I was also quite struck by the Capitol equivalent of a sports book that was showcased in that movie, especially as we see gambling in all forms becoming more and more socially acceptable these days in the US, and states trying to get a cut of the action; not just the state lotteries, but, for example, how Governor Christie of New Jersey recently attempted to legalize sports gambling in his state). And while FYI I admit I never “got” the whole allure of gambling, certainly one can argue that it’s yet another way that the “powers that be” can distract citizens from more serious issues.

In CF, the D11 design actually tweaked aspects of canon, such as showing workers picking cotton instead of fruit as they did in the book, to drive the “D11 = Deep South”, not just geographically but culturally as well, to the extent of giving the Peacekeepers attack dogs that I bet Bull Connor would have loved to own. (Brief history lesson: Connor was a notorious segregationist “Commissioner of Public Safety” in Birmingham, AL, who cracked down harshly on civil rights protestors in the 1960s. I’ve even wondered if Connor’s deceptively benign job title, helped inspire the “Peacekeeper” moniker.)

And not only did CF harken back to the 1960’s, it also showed “rebellion” footage that seemed straight out of the Arab Spring. I’m sure that was no co-incidence.

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Bull Connor

Especially knowing that Danny Strong wrote the first scripts, I’m sure that MJ will continue to showcase these historical and political parallels. (Note that, as has been mentioned on this blog before, “Game Change” actually has a lot of similarities to MJ even though Sarah Palin is VERY different from Katniss in many ways, both feature a female character “campaigning” for a cause and frequently “going rogue” and disregarding the scripts their handlers want them to follow.)

Note that the MJ marketing again touched on the idea of “Panem field hands = African Americans”, considering the race of the woman chosen to represent the Grain district (even though she likely hailed from the Midwest, not as strongly associated with the African American civil rights struggle as the Deep South, though certainly the North had/has its own issues with racism as well.)

Unfortunately, it’s likely too late for the MJ movies to draw the obvious parallels between the MJ rebellion and what’s happening at the Ukraine-Russia border these days, right down to innocent civilians being caught in the cross-fire, with each side pointing the finger at the other as the culprit for a wartime atrocity. Much as in MJ, I wonder if we’ll ever find out the REAL story about who shot down that airliner. (On the other hand, there’s still almost two years worth of marketing to go…)

But we know that the Iraq war helped to inspire SC to write this story, as did her father’s experiences as a soldier in Vietnam. I can certainly see, for example, a shot of rebels dragging down a statue of Snow, much as Saddam Hussein’s statue bit the dust. Or perhaps we’ll see a shot of Snow being dragged out of a bunker somewhere. And while Julianne Moore’s description of D13 seems more consistent with “Jericho” and other post-apocalyptic societies than the historical Soviet Union, I wouldn’t be surprised if there is some reference to the idea of “Capitol = US, D13 = USSR”; perhaps a nod to classic Cold War era movies such as “Dr. Strangelove” (which itself based the not-so-good Doctor partly on Werner von Brown, who managed to jump from serving the Nazis in WWII to directing NASA in the 1960s; hmm, that sounds almost like what Plutarch did, actually).

Finally, the reason I titled this post “Applicability”, is that the current events in Crimea really did impress me with how applicable this series is to the Ukraine/Russia conflict, even though SC wrote the books years before this conflict flared up. In both, we have rebels who want to break away from one problematic regime, yet are backed by another regime that has many problematic aspects as well. This is one reason I think this series may remain relevant for a while, even after the last MJ movie.

Satsuma

Cinna’s Subliminal Design Clues

Caesar’s Scrunchy is back once again with EVEN MOAR visual beauty! Today, she’s talking about how Catching Fire portrayed the way Cinna left his mark on more than just The Mockingjay!

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I decided to fill the time waiting for “Mockingjay” by watching “Catching Fire” again, and noticed that Effie Trinkett was wearing a necklace (in Katniss’ wedding dress/Mockingjay dress scene) that looked like arrowheads. Then I noticed Katniss’ earrings when her dress transforms become arrowheads too, and then… there were arrowheads (triangles) ALL OVER the movie!

And they were worn only by Katniss’ allies, whether she knew they were her allies or not.

Then I decided that because, as Effie says, Cinna is the most influential designer in the Capitol, it makes sense that he would put these arrowheads subliminally in his designs, and that others would copy him.

Check it out – these pages show Cinna’s influence, with tons of arrowheads (triangles) throughout. I found these images from basic Google web searches (I don’t own any of the photos or anything else– it all belongs to Lionsgate and Suzanne Collins, ok?)

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2 Katniss 1b

4 Katniss 2b

PEETA

6 Peeta b

VICTORY TOUR COSTUMING

8 Victory Tour b

JOHANNA

14 Johanna b

HAYMITCH

10 Haymitch b

FINNICK

12 Finnick b

BEETEE

16 BeeTee b

PLUTARCH
18 Plutarch b
PRESIDENT SNOW AND HIS FOLLOWERS

19 Snow
20 Capitol Folk

GALE

21 Gale

EFFIE

22 Effie

OTHER ARROWHEADS

23 Whole Cast

24 Arena

But trust me: it’s tons of fun watching “Catching Fire” again, and seeing if you can find who else wears the arrowheads…and who doesn’t!

Sincerely,

Caesar’s Scrunchy

The Real Big “R” Question for Mockingjay – Not Ratings, but Romance

Today we have a great guest post by Satsuma on a topic that brings out a lot of passion in the fandom.


Okay, first things first.  I confess that it wasn’t just the (rather scanty) Mockingjay news so far that brought this question to my mind.

No, I must credit the inspiration for this topic, of how much romance is appropriate for a sci-fi, action-packed “young adult” tale to, of all things, LEGOs — the LEGO ninjas who star in the Cartoon Network show, “Ninjago: Masters of Spinjitzu”. Think LEGO Star Wars mixed with kung-fu.  For a series of 22-minute LEGO commercials, the show can be surprisingly deep; there is one Big Bad Palpatine/Sauron-like villain, but other antagonists are quite humanized, including Darth -er, Lord Garmadon, or the snake-like Serpentine clans, who actually have legitimate reasons to be angry at mankind.

The show is targeted mostly at young boys, and the 4 ninjas (Kai, Jay, Zane, and Cole)  are all male, as is the Chosen One, Lloyd. But there is one significant female character; Nya, Kai’s sister. Nya is a mecha wiz who dresses up in a robo-Samurai-suit to fight evil, and often bests the boys at their game.

Seasons 1 and 2 of the show had a touch of innocent romance between Nya and Jay, but this was far from the focus.  But suddenly, in season 3, Nya wound up in a love triangle between Jay and fellow ninja Cole.  A love interest appeared for Zane as well, and it even turned out that Lord Garmadon and his brother, Sensei Wu, had both wooed Padm – er, Misako in the past.

Well, the fan reaction to all this romance, was, essentially, “ewwww”!  Not just from the young boys, but the tween girls who were the likely target of it. Many female fans of the show were annoyed that Nya was turned into yet another Bella-like ingenue torn between two suitors, as opposed to a heroine in her own right who just happened to be dating another ensemble character.

And so this brings me to Mockingjay, and the debates over how much romance will, and should, be in the films.  It seems the fan consensus for THG was that one of the film’s major flaws was how the K/P ship was not only downplayed, but done so in a way that shorted Peeta as a character.  For the CF movie, I was mostly satisfied both with the “balance” between K/P and K/G and the overall amount of romance , but I certainly recall some Everlarkers griping “no plant book scene”, “no rooftop scene”, or “that beach kiss was NOT passionate enough” (I actually agree with the last one; it was cute, but not one that made me think Katniss was having sexy feelings down below, the way the book scene certainly did.)

How much of this will we see in Mockingjay Part 2? (Source: tigriss92.tumblr.com)

How much of this will we see in Mockingjay Part 2? (Source: tigriss92.tumblr.com)

What will we see in the MJ films, though?  Certainly, two films give the film-makers extra time for romance, but that doesn’t mean all the book scenes will make it in. Some of the extra time will be given to added scenes, such as battles, or exposition scenes between Snow and his new adviser, Antonius, and we’ll likely get a peek at Coin’s machinations as well.  So in keeping with the general trends, I forecast some romantic scenes being edited, cut down, or merged with others.

Again, the “balance” between K/P and K/G will be crucial, especially given Peeta’s absence in most of Part 1, and the difficulty even SC herself had with sinking K/G not only as a romance, but as a friendship as well (I refer, again, to the many “post-MJ” fanfics that feature a K/G reconciliation at least as friends.)

What I think fans also should keep in mind, is that the MJ book itself was a much less “romantic” a book than certainly CF, or even THG. To me, even before Peeta reappeared, MJ made it obvious that the only potential K/G had, even without the clashes in values, was a “lifeboat camaraderie” type friendship with some  “hurt/comfort” thrown in.  (And to be fair, K/P has these aspects as well, but goes beyond it in a way K/G didn’t.)  Note that SC herself had to be nudged by her editor into writing “more of the Peeta-Katniss-Gale love triangle”.  (Source)

Now, this little tidbit makes me highly suspect that the very Twilight-ish “who will she choose” scene between Peeta and Gale in Tigris’s shop was added on by SC in response to her editor’s suggestions.  Considering how the films so far have tended to cut out the “cheesier” romantic scenes and lines, I think that if we do see the scene, it will be quite cut down, though Gale’s “she’ll choose who she can’t survive without” comment may be left in.   And it certainly may, as Katniss’s later musings about “what I need to survive” show much about the characters of all Love Triangle Trio members. Also, in the books, Katniss only reflects on this comment internally.  Certainly, book!Katniss actually verbalizing her complicated feelings to Peeta (or to Gale) would have been quite OOC.  But movie!Katniss is not quite as introverted (a change I certainly prefer to cheesy voice-overs), and it will be interesting to see how the movie converts her thoughts to actual dialogue.  In this way, I can see the MJ movies having a more “romantic” component than the books.

My own take on the series is that, romance is certainly a large component of it; certainly more than the Y-7 rated Ninjago.  Not only do we have the central love triangle, we also have Mr. M, Mrs. E and Mr. E, Annie and Finnick, and so on.  I certainly don’t agree with the extreme anti-romance “Katniss was incapable of loving anyone but Prim, she just chose Peeta because she was stuck with him and did what she could to survive” theory.  But in the end, it is NOT a romance in terms of the genre.  So I’m not personally going to wait with baited breath for each book kiss to appear on the scene.

I think SC meant for the romance to take a back seat in MJ, and only be established towards the end, in the context of not only two hot bodies going at it, but a long-lasting relationship that produces children, to provide a ray of hope at the end.   I also hope the films convey the idea that the “choice” between Peeta and Gale wasn’t just a choice between two men (unlike Nya’s choice, as her suitors are both “good guys” who pretty much look the same except for wig and costume) but one between two different ways of life.  Can movie!Katniss become one of the few pop culture heroines who isn’t JUST a “romantic” or “action” heroine, but transcends both?

One can only hope.

-Satsuma

Compare and Contrast: The Hunger Games and Catching Fire

Our latest guest post comes from the hilariously tag-named Caesar’s Scrunchy, who has a few awesome points about the relationship between Katniss and Peeta (with visuals!)

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You know you’re desperate for more “Mockingjay” action when you’re willing to do a school writing assignment in the summertime, which wasn’t assigned and will never be graded! But we’ve got to do something to pass the time waiting for the next propo, right?

So I’ve done a “compare and contrast” assignment just like in school, where we take two different things – two poems, two books, two films, etc. – and see what is different and what is similar about them. These assignments aren’t always fun, but when we do them, we can learn a lot more about each one by looking more closely at them. And it can be especially fun if you compare “The Hunger Games” and “Catching Fire” movies (because what else are we going to do
besides watch these two fave movies, amiright?!) The books have these parallels as well, but that REALLY feels like a school assignment, and doing it this way, I got to watch the movies again as “research.”

In some cases, the exact opposite from what happened in HG happened in CF (I noted those with the arrows). I used to think the first two books were a bit similar, but the more I worked on this, I appreciated how hard the filmmakers worked to give us an amazing number of little details that created great symmetry between the two movies. Or, to quote Haymitch, “Genius!” When you look at the comparisons, I hope you agree.

If you like this, feel free to watch the movies again (as if anyone needs an invitation?) and see if you can find more contrasts and comparisons. I wonder what would happen if we added Gale to the mix? Or compared Seneca Crane vs. Plutarch? Or HG Buttercup vs. CF Buttercup? J

PS – I own none of the images here, they are just for illustration purposes to show each point. AND: this is the first thing I’ve ever written for VictorsVillage.com, and I hope you like it.

COMPARE AND CONTRAST: THE HUNGER GAMES AND CATCHING FIRE
Katniss Peeta Chart 1
THE BALANCE BETWEEN THEM

Katniss Peeta Chart 2

Caesar’s Scrunchy

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