This is a pure work of speculation, and not a defamation of character, or characters– but today I learned about the YouTube sex scandals that have been rocking parts of the Internet for days. And low, because this is a Hunger Games directed blog my brain latched onto the thought of “what if YouTube was Panem, and instead of people like Tom Milsom allegedly taking advantage of an under age fan, it was Peeta Mellark or someone as innocent looking in the public consciousness?” Not much to go on, but considering that Panem is supposed to be based on our own world, but augmented, or jacked up to an acid trip level of weird. Say that seven times fast! The thing is, Panem isn’t without its own scandals, so why add-on the hypothetical, and uncharacteristic idea of someone like Peeta being an uber asshole, and finding the opportunity to ruin everything he may have going with Katniss by screwing around with a, well– fan? I don’t buy it.
If we’re going to talk sexual exploitation, The Hunger Games universe, and scandals– we have at least two people to talk about, maybe three– perhaps four. Finnick Odair, Johanna Mason, Coriolanus Snow, and about a couple of thousand, or few hundred money-grubbing Capitol citizens who love, love, love the idea of doing naughty things with some sanctioned murderers, erm Victors. Finnick of course we know has been abused to the nth degree since he won his games when he was 14, which if you don’t shudder at the thought of a 14 year-old boy being forced to perform sexual acts with strangers for fear of his family, and loved ones being tortured or killed– you need to go get some help. Why? Because, say it with me now “ewwwwwww!” Right then, I’m sure there are about a bazillion horrible, half way decent, and maybe a handful of good fan fiction stories about this, but I’m gonna posit that Johanna was also exploited by the Capitol in almost the exact same way as Finnick. It’s already known that everyone she loves is dead, she said it her self in Catching Fire, but we don’t know how it all went down. Me thinks like Finnick, because she was one of the more attractive, and feisty tributes to become a Victor that she also forced into the elite Capitol prostitution ring that Finnick had already been part of for so long. This is also why I think that Finnick and Johanna’s friendship is on a level that many people could never fathom. Why? Because in my head I imagine some pretty horrid shit going down in that ring of sexual exploitation, stuff out of Requiem for a Dream, stuff out of Eyes Wide Shut, stuff out of The Story of O, sick, twisted stuff– and I think they experienced some of this trauma together. But how did Johanna lose everyone she loves if she was supposedly going along with this horribleness? Easy, she stopped not saying no, and they murdered her family, loved ones, and friends for her insubordination.
Now, that would never happen on Youtube, would it?
Them There Eyes
Did you know you can reserve Catching Fire on DVD right now, while it’s still in theaters?
While attempting to finish Christmas shopping, my local “doomed to close because we mostly sell current music” store asked me if I want to reserve my copy now. I don’t think the cashier was ready for my truth bomb about how you can’t just reserve any old version of the DVD when there will be so many editions to choose from. Buuuut anyway…
Between gift buying and Catching Fire talk, we got to thinking about what the best gifts would be for these characters after Catching Fire ended. Thinking forward to Mockingjay, there are a few things to come to mind!
Katniss Everdeen – A Really Snazzy Diary, Perhaps with a Shiny Little Mockingjay Design on It, and a Punching Bag
We know nothing about dealing with the complexities of PTSD. But we DO know a few good things to help a 16-year-old girl to throw down some feels!
Gale Hawthorne – P90X
Because model soldiers aren’t built overnight, you know! Try 90 days!
Haymitch Abernathy – Pure, unfiltered alcohol followed by a metric ton of coffee
Time for Haymitch to figure out the alcohol to coffee ratio that makes him useful without making him mean!
Peeta Mellark and Johanna Mason – Three paper clips, a pen, duct tape, air freshener and every episode of MacGyver (and a TV/DVD Player combo, obviously)
The ultimate escape plan! They can then decide if they want to share with Enobaria.
Alma Coin – A ridiculously big, fluffy stuffed animal
This lady needs someone to hug! And there don’t seem to be too many willing human participants sooooo….
Prim Everdeen – Percy Jackson books, a bag of sweets, and an iPod filled with pop tunes
We tend to forget she’s only 13. We want her to get to BE 13!
Buttercup – Catnip
That cat just went on a journey that even the entrails Katniss sometimes feeds him can’t make up for!
Boggs – A Heavy Duty Poncho Fashioned for Combat
Boggs goes through a lot, but we thought we’d do him a small favor by helping him avoid that moment when Katniss pukes all over him.
Get Your Holiday Cheer On, Y’all!
The Girl With The Pearl
We’d love to pretend that everyone who ends up on this site is looking for comedy, opinions, and inspirations revolving around The Hunger Games… but we also know that isn’t always the case!
Every once in a while, we break down the searches that have lead people to our site. What we typically find is an unfiltered boatload of pure CRAZY. The times have changed with the release of Catching Fire, but the number of fans who probably need some sort of mental evaluation has not!
To repeat, people have actually searched these phrases and found their way to Victor’s Village within the last 7 days.
katniss everdeen’s pregnancy pictures - AKA let’s photoshop Jennifer Lawrence’s face onto the bodies of pregnant women because THAT’S NOT FREAKING CREEPY!
what would finnick name his daughter - He doesn’t have one. But if he did, he would call her Marjorie. DUH.
jack hutcherson - This world be the parents of the world trying to keep up with actors their kids like. Bless your heart for trying!
slag heap hunger games - Anyone who knows the books knows they person was probably looking for dirty fanfiction, but we’ve gotta give them credit for attempting to be subtle! Compared to search terms like “Katniss Peeta kinky sex”, this person is a lady/gentleman.
obama president snow - No matter what problems you may have with the current president (or any president throughout history, really), NO LEADER in the US is at President Snow’s level. Slow your roll.
johanna mason naked wrestling - The most nudity you see out of Jena Malone in Catching Fire is her exposed back, yet quite a few people (via various similar search terms) seem to think there’s a secret corner of the internet where she’s flaunting at all for the camera, sometimes while wrestling other naked people. But is it Jell-o wrestling? Otherwise, we’re not down.
hammer catfights - WHAT? What does this even consist of?! Two chicks fighting with hammers?!
do the victors in catching fire have talents? - They do! Several, actually. One of them is called “Reading”. You should try it!
peeta gay - Yup. Because if a man is compassionate, sensitive, and understanding, he must also want to be with other dudes. Way to subvert those gender stereotypes! Your parents must be proud!
how does katniss react to prims death.org - One of many in our “Give me the answers to my homework!” category. It’s the random .org at the end that kills us! DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND READ THE DAMN BOOKS, KID! THEY’RE FUCKING AWESOME.
scarf thingy that can be a dress from the movie - You think you can also wear that thing as a dress?! It has no bottom half. You go upstairs and change this instant, young lady!
what is the correlation between cats and the hunger games – Secretly, cats are the evil overlords controlling Snow and running The Hunger Games. They rigged the reaping ball to pick Prim’s name to get back at their one defector, Buttercup. Meow, bitches!
discounted cardboard cutout of jennifer lawrence bikini - General character cutouts are expected searches. Even general actor cutouts. But Jen in a bikini? This is a prop request for a sad, sad person who spends a lot of time alone in their room.
mockingjay attractive hijacked peeta - We’re sorry… you think Peeta is attractive after he gets hijacked? And you want more information on that? WE CAN’T EVEN.
There Is No Hope For You, Internet. We Love You Anyway.
The Girl With The Pearl
Now that we’ve all reveled in THE HUNGER GAMES: CATCHING FIRE several times, it’s time for Victor’s Village’s infamous reaction post!
For those of you who aren’t familiar with our reaction posts, our three admins in a chat get together and say anything and everything we feel about the topic at hand… and it gets pretty damn hilarious, if we do say so ourselves!
This post is also long, mostly hidden under the READ MORE cut, and contains ALL THE SPOILERS. Beware!
THE FIVE WORD CHALLENGE
The Girl With The Pearl: Since we made our readers answer this: Give an overall review in FIVE WORDS or less!
Them There Eyes: Not the Hunger Games, bitches. Sorry, was channeling Spike from Buffy.
Twiffidy: Oh no this is hard.
TGWTP: Mine is turning out to just be “Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!” That could be taken several different ways.
Twiffidy: Spectacular with all the feels.
DRUNK HAYMITCH AND EFFIE’S ALIEN BABIES
TGWTP: And said feelings start with some MAJOR character development? Whose was your favorite?
Them There Eyes: I think everyone got an ample amount of character development, even Buttercup. But, I think I’m going to have to go with Effie!
Twiffidy: Effie for sure. I mean, they did finally say her name!
TGWTP: Buttercup was so very… orange! T’was lovely.
TGWTP: I agree Effie takes the cake. We finally get to see the pure Capitol in her that was downplayed before AND a more sensitive side!
Twiffidy: When it comes to Effie, I was relieved to see her humanized.
Them There Eyes: Effie crying was like watching an alien have a baby, and then you cry… because it had a baby.
TGWTP: Somehow, that description works. LOL
Them There Eyes: Okay, now we have to talk about how the joke could finally be made! “Go home Haymitch, you’re drunk.”
TGWTP: YES. He was ACTUALLY DRUNK.
Them There Eyes: Really drunk! I’ve never been so glad to see a man drunk before in my life!
Twiffidy: That entire scene like a slice out of my imagination when I read the books
Them There Eyes: I know! Right down to the bread, and the “burrrr!”
Twiffidy: He was the right amount of drunk from how the books describes without being too comical.
TGWTP: For sure! It’s a hard line to walk, but Woody knows what he’s doing.
Them There Eyes: Still made me wish for Drunk!Haymitch from THG, falling off the stage at the Reaping. I hope non book fans aren’t too surprised by his sudden change from social drinker to rubbing alcohol pilferer.
TGWTP: And you know what? Peeta was manned up! And it wasn’t some massive dissolution of his character like people made it out to be. Quelle surprise!
Them There Eyes: I know, just seemed like a boy grew up after he saw some pretty horrible things, and… also had his heart broken.
Twiffidy: Yes, it’s understated but that’s how it appeared to me. I’m a big fan of Peeta’s journey through this movie.
Them There Eyes: I loved Peeta, I had Peeta feels for days after seeing it… also sleep deprivation. People change, Peeta’s one of those people.
TGWTP: Peeta Mellark is the ninja-silent emo badass of Panem, though for good reason.
Twiffidy: It’s important to realize that this is the Peeta that Katniss will miss in Mockingjay.
TGWTP: URGH MOCKINGJAY. MY HEART IS NOT READY.
Them There Eyes: My body is.
Twiffidy: I almost involuntarily squeak out “No!” at that final look at Peeta as Katniss leaves with the wire. Every. Time.
TGWTP: I understand. It’s “Don’t do it, idiot! I know what happens and you don’t want that shit!”
Twiffidy: I’VE SEEN YOUR FUTURE AND IT IS BLEAK.
Yesterday morning, Victor’s Village and a whole bunch of fansite friends got the chance to interview Sam Claflin and Jena Malone via phone!
If you’ve ever questioned these two in their roles, we can officially tell you not to worry about it. Sam Claflin is beyond charming. He talked about the love of his life so much that our hearts melted. Srsly quise, it was adorbs. And it was so very Finnick Odair! Jena Malone is small and cute, but there’s also a fierce passion in her that lets us know she’ll bring out the best (and by “best”, we may mean “worst”) parts of Johanna Mason.
They were unbelievably sweet, especially considering that they were probably woken up at the crack of dawn to get ready for the Philadelphia stop of the Victory Tour and 7 out of 10 sites asked them how they were because it’s habit and it’s the polite thing to do, okay?! The interview itself ran a little long, so each site only had a chance for one question. But in the post-interview downtime, Sam and Jena sang “Happy Birthday” to Samantha from Panem Propaganda, because her birthday was Saturday and hey, they could. Yeah, we’re kinda TOTALLY smitten.
So now that they gushing is done, on to the interview! Please note that a large portion of the interview is under the READ MORE link!
Sam, fans have followed the casting with a lot of attention to detail, and Annie Cresta was not cast until you guys had wrapped Catching Fire, so without an actress in that role, did you find it difficult to draw from Finnick’s relationship with her in the Catching Fire arena and if so how did you overcome that?
Sam: I definitely see where you are coming from. No, but I don’t feel like without a picture in my head, as an actor I necesarily needed that to draw from, if you know what I mean. Obviously from personal experience, I am married and there for my wife was my kind of experience that I could draw from. You know, the love of my life and all that. So I didn’t necessarily need an actress or an image of a person to emotionally inform me, if that makes sense. Definitely I am very excited to get started with Steph Dawson, who is playing Annie Cresta. Finnick spends so much time in the arena, away from her, focusing on mainly protecting Katniss. I don’t feel that it affected my performance necessarily during Catching Fire.
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When you become part of the cast for a franchise as big as the Hunger Games, with such a big fanbase is there a pressure to please a lot of people or do you find that it’s easier when there is already millions of people that love it?
Jena: Well it’s kind of a give and take. I think luckily Sam and I – Sam if I could just speak for you – we were both such fans of the series anyway, that coming in with such love and appreciation for the project, such passion for a project it only propels you forward knowing that there is 100,000 people out there that has the same love and passion. Of course it’s a little terrifying in the morning when you want to make sure that you are getting it right. But fortunately books are two dimensional beings and films are a three dimensional format. We were building things in a whole new way. So there is no way to get it like the book in every way, because books are two dimensional. We are building blood and love and sweat. We’re breathing life into these characters and so I think that they are always going to be better than the books ever imagined them.
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Over the course of filming, you’ve obviously gotten to spend a lot of time with other members of the cast. Who did you really enjoy hanging out with off set, and are there any close bonds you formed that you think will go beyond the films many years into the future?
Jena: The entire cast is so rad, it’s hard to pick one person. We’ve become such a tight-knit family. I kind of fangirled out over Philip Seymour Hoffman, just a little bit. I mean, he’s been one of my favorites, I don’t know.
Sam: Yeah, we all sort of ended up socializing off set as much as we did on set, and there was a lot of fun to be had. And that all kind of spans back to the fact that Francis was very open to ideas and it made it much more of a collaborative family experience, if that makes sense. There was a lot of misbehaving and mischief caused, but, you know, in a very fun way, and we were all able to kind of focus on the job at hand when we needed to. But yeah, I don’t think there was one person I disliked, and if I did, I’d be sure to tell you! (laughter) Actually, I’m not a big fan of Jena, Jena Malone.
Jena: …Jina Mahone or something? She’s a crazer.
Sam: But we all got along like a house on fire. You can’t help but really admire an experience like that really.
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While I sit here and hope Them There Eyes hasn’t been eaten by a bear on her camping adventure, we’re off to the next guest post!
Today, JJ is here to talk about the glorious potential of the Mockingjay Part 1 movie to show us interesting scenes outside of Katniss’ limited point-of-view!
So, an interview blurb came out and some people didn’t like the things Francis Lawrence said about Peeta. This wasn’t the first time, or the hundredth time, and certainly won’t be the last time people get worried or upset by the way Peeta is interpreted/changed/underdeveloped/not included enough in marketing, etc.
But it got me thinking again, how are they going to make Mockingjay Part 1 a movie that a lot of fans don’t hate? Or at the very least, see only once as opposed to their three, four, five PLUS trips to the theater for The Hunger Games?
If filmmakers divide the book about evenly between the two movies, the only scenes with Peeta are a couple of televised appearances.
But wait you say- it’s a movie! We can have new scenes not tied to Katniss’s POV! And this is where I get super excited. With the extra time of having two movies for Mockingjay, there is room to flesh out some of what goes down in the Capitol. Think of the possibilities.
The Aftermath of the Quarter Quell. Could we finally discover what happens to the victors that aren’t rescued to District 13? To Effie? And I’d love to see some initial mind game-heavy scenes between Snow and Peeta or Snow and Johanna. Peeta doesn’t really have any interaction with Snow that we know about up to this point. And is Johanna her defiant self when face to face with Snow?
Peeta and Johanna bonding in the cellblock. Orange Is the New Black, only about a thousand times more messed up.
The Hijacking. Gulp. I don’t exactly want to see this, and it will be a PG-13 movie so fortunately it can’t get TOO graphic. But I am interested in how the filmmakers interpret these scenes. Will they make it more ambiguous torture so non-book reading audiences are surprised when Peeta attacks Katniss? Or will they assume that most people already know and just flat out show Snow’s intentions?
The Rescue. Very little is revealed about the rescue mission, only that it was “a little too easy.” Details please!
Mockingjay Part 1 has the potential to be the most surprising of all the movies. And I couldn’t be happier about it.
Them There Eyes is off exploring the wilderness this week, which means one thing: GUEST POSTS!
We’ve got a couple of goodies for you, starting off with this one from first time guest writer Fefe! She’s introducing us to a new term and talking about why resemblance isn’t a deciding factor for the characters she loves.
In completely unrelated (but totally related) fandom news, the answer to “Who is the 12th Doctor?” has been answered, and he looks nothing like, well, me. Whovians all over the world have been weighing in on what they wanted from a new Doctor (“a person of color”,” a woman”, “A GINGER!”) all summer and now that the role has been filled we can get to the part I’ve been dreading: the backlash from the unsatisfied.
The hoopla over the next Doctor reminds me of another group of fans we all know and (usually) love; fans of The Hunger Games. See, I told you it was kind of related. Remember when Jennifer and Liam weren’t the exact skin tone we imagined Katniss and Gale would be? Remember when Cinna was (*gasp*) tapped to be played by a black actor? Remember when that all happened again this year when the Catching Fire cast was announced by Lionsgate? There were people who were angry yet again because the actors did not look the way they’d imagined, these critics were those who didn’t think there were enough people of color hired to be a part of the cast.
The opposing fans argued that the looks of the actors tapped to play the characters they had grown to love when reading the series is: “They don’t look like me and I want to be able to see myself in this character I love.” I have a question for you, why? While I can understand occasionally wanting to see oneself represented on screen, I cannot understand why that has to be the case with every TV show or film one watches. I have had many spirited debates with friends about this when discussing the likes of shows on The CW or ABC Family as well as The Hunger Games saga and I never quite get it.
I am black, I am female, and I date women, but I don’t need every character in everything watch to also be a gay black woman for me to enjoy watching them. Some would call me a “Blerd”; a black nerd. I swear I did not just make that word up and it is actually a thing; Google it if you don’t believe me. I am also friends with a lot of Blerds and, as much as I love them, I am constantly frustrated by some of their points of view. They tend to get up in arms the “feel left out” and because they don’t think there are enough representations of them on shows and in films they watch. I in turn get frustrated trying to argue that sometimes even characters resembling me tend to be the characters I like least. For the record, the lesbian women of color, like me, on True Blood and Pretty Little Liars, to me are unlikable and I sometimes mute the telly when they are on screen. Should I enjoy a character more by virtue of a shared resemblance? A character’s race, gender, and sexual orientation have little to with my identifying with a character as I am more about the depth of that character than the surface qualities.
While reading The Hunger Games series I liked to imagine I could have been Katniss Everdeen or Johanna Mason. I wanted to believe that I could be the face of a rebellion and that there could be something that I believed in so strongly about that I would be brave enough to risk everything, including my life for. When the actresses hired to play the parts of these characters who from their book descriptions could have been a person of color turned out to be white women, I lost no love or respect for them or what they did in the books and did not admire them any less because the actress playing the part didn’t look like me. My friends argued that Collins’ description of Katniss meant she could have been played by an African-American or Native American and casting Jennifer Lawrence left some fans disappointed that she was another case of Hollywood whitewashing. They felt hurt that because Katniss/Collins did not specifically say I am black or I am Latina that meant by default she was to be played by a white actress.
It comes down to this: Katniss had to be played by someone and that someone turned out to be a great actress. Ultimately, these friends of mine accepted Jennifer Lawrence because hey, who doesn’t love Jennifer? (For the record if you don’t love her, I wouldn’t admit it out loud or on Twitter, talk about backlash.) I asked my fellow Blerds if they were pleased when Jeffrey Wright and Maria Howell were picked to play Tributes in the 75th Hunger Games and they were. They were pleased they were going to see themselves represented and even happier because unlike the stereotypical move in a movie, Beetee and Seeder don’t die right away. Oh well, at least there’s that I told them. Boring old that, because how uninteresting to only watch things that have characters just like you living their lives just like you (well, if you lived in a dystopian future and were on a nationally televised reality show where you had to kill to live)? I am a self-proclaimed TV & film addict, and if I only watched shows featuring a chick that goes to classes, writes papers, and spends most her time at her call center job I’d be bored, like, Episode One bored
Personally, I am most looking forward to Catching Fire to see my favorite character, Johanna, from the series come to life on screen, and I could not care less that Jena Malone does not look just like me. I just want to see her sashay into that elevator and swing that axe because those are actions I most want to try in real life.
Okay… this may sound weird but… We need to know if we’re going to see Jena Malone naked in November. Okay, not actually naked, but in an on-screen situation that seriously implies nudity. It’s driving us crazy!
When District 7′s Johanna Mason introduces herself to the readers in Catching Fire, she sets the tone stripping down in the middle of the elevator to psych out the ever uptight Katniss. It’s there for a little shock value, but it shows that she’s not intimidated by the other Victors and she’s probably got a better handle on the Capitol lifestyle to boot. It’s also a great moment of differentiation between Katniss, who is mortified, and Peeta, who laughs at the situation because he’s adapted a little better and doesn’t let Johanna ruffle his feathers.
And we have no idea whether or not it’s going to happen. We think so. We’re pretty sure. Kinda.
It’s not that Jena Malone hasn’t been asked about it. She was asked. A lot. But she gave basically the same answer every time. Something along the lines of “What’s great about this film is that Francis Lawrence worked really closely with Suzanne Collins, so we’re very true to the book and the core of the story.”
This could be Jena saying two things: “Yup, I’m totes naked” or “My character does a helluva lot more than get naked in the books, so stop being getting so damn obsessed with that one scene.” Maybe both! Truthfully, we just can’t be sure. And maybe we shouldn’t care, but the moment actually has some interesting context, not just bare skin.
Also, it would be a glorious “fuck you” to that parent review site who cited a quick shot of Jennifer Lawrence’s bare leg from the knee down in The Hunger Games’ speed bathing scene as “some inappropriate nudity” back when the first film came out. We’ll show you real inappropriate nudity!
And why not say one way or the other? Were the actors, particularly Jena, told to keep mum on the scene? Or did she decide it would more fun for the fans to guess? Either way, good move. We’re intrigued. NOW TELL USSSSSSS!
Let’s Face It. Johanna Will Look Hot Either Way,
The Girl With The Pearl