Now that we’ve all reveled in THE HUNGER GAMES: CATCHING FIRE several times, it’s time for Victor’s Village’s infamous reaction post!
For those of you who aren’t familiar with our reaction posts, our three admins in a chat get together and say anything and everything we feel about the topic at hand… and it gets pretty damn hilarious, if we do say so ourselves!
This post is also long, mostly hidden under the READ MORE cut, and contains ALL THE SPOILERS. Beware!
THE FIVE WORD CHALLENGE
The Girl With The Pearl: Since we made our readers answer this: Give an overall review in FIVE WORDS or less!
Them There Eyes: Not the Hunger Games, bitches. Sorry, was channeling Spike from Buffy.
Twiffidy: Oh no this is hard.
TGWTP: Mine is turning out to just be “Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!” That could be taken several different ways.
Twiffidy: Spectacular with all the feels.
DRUNK HAYMITCH AND EFFIE’S ALIEN BABIES
TGWTP: And said feelings start with some MAJOR character development? Whose was your favorite?
Them There Eyes: I think everyone got an ample amount of character development, even Buttercup. But, I think I’m going to have to go with Effie!
Twiffidy: Effie for sure. I mean, they did finally say her name!
TGWTP: Buttercup was so very… orange! T’was lovely.
TGWTP: I agree Effie takes the cake. We finally get to see the pure Capitol in her that was downplayed before AND a more sensitive side!
Twiffidy: When it comes to Effie, I was relieved to see her humanized.
Them There Eyes: Effie crying was like watching an alien have a baby, and then you cry… because it had a baby.
TGWTP: Somehow, that description works. LOL
Them There Eyes: Okay, now we have to talk about how the joke could finally be made! “Go home Haymitch, you’re drunk.”
TGWTP: YES. He was ACTUALLY DRUNK.
Them There Eyes: Really drunk! I’ve never been so glad to see a man drunk before in my life!
Twiffidy: That entire scene like a slice out of my imagination when I read the books
Them There Eyes: I know! Right down to the bread, and the “burrrr!”
Twiffidy: He was the right amount of drunk from how the books describes without being too comical.
TGWTP: For sure! It’s a hard line to walk, but Woody knows what he’s doing.
Them There Eyes: Still made me wish for Drunk!Haymitch from THG, falling off the stage at the Reaping. I hope non book fans aren’t too surprised by his sudden change from social drinker to rubbing alcohol pilferer.
TGWTP: And you know what? Peeta was manned up! And it wasn’t some massive dissolution of his character like people made it out to be. Quelle surprise!
Them There Eyes: I know, just seemed like a boy grew up after he saw some pretty horrible things, and… also had his heart broken.
Twiffidy: Yes, it’s understated but that’s how it appeared to me. I’m a big fan of Peeta’s journey through this movie.
Them There Eyes: I loved Peeta, I had Peeta feels for days after seeing it… also sleep deprivation. People change, Peeta’s one of those people.
TGWTP: Peeta Mellark is the ninja-silent emo badass of Panem, though for good reason.
Twiffidy: It’s important to realize that this is the Peeta that Katniss will miss in Mockingjay.
TGWTP: URGH MOCKINGJAY. MY HEART IS NOT READY.
Them There Eyes: My body is.
Twiffidy: I almost involuntarily squeak out “No!” at that final look at Peeta as Katniss leaves with the wire. Every. Time.
TGWTP: I understand. It’s “Don’t do it, idiot! I know what happens and you don’t want that shit!”
Twiffidy: I’VE SEEN YOUR FUTURE AND IT IS BLEAK.
Yesterday morning, Victor’s Village and a whole bunch of fansite friends got the chance to interview Sam Claflin and Jena Malone via phone!
If you’ve ever questioned these two in their roles, we can officially tell you not to worry about it. Sam Claflin is beyond charming. He talked about the love of his life so much that our hearts melted. Srsly quise, it was adorbs. And it was so very Finnick Odair! Jena Malone is small and cute, but there’s also a fierce passion in her that lets us know she’ll bring out the best (and by “best”, we may mean “worst”) parts of Johanna Mason.
They were unbelievably sweet, especially considering that they were probably woken up at the crack of dawn to get ready for the Philadelphia stop of the Victory Tour and 7 out of 10 sites asked them how they were because it’s habit and it’s the polite thing to do, okay?! The interview itself ran a little long, so each site only had a chance for one question. But in the post-interview downtime, Sam and Jena sang “Happy Birthday” to Samantha from Panem Propaganda, because her birthday was Saturday and hey, they could. Yeah, we’re kinda TOTALLY smitten.
So now that they gushing is done, on to the interview! Please note that a large portion of the interview is under the READ MORE link!
Sam, fans have followed the casting with a lot of attention to detail, and Annie Cresta was not cast until you guys had wrapped Catching Fire, so without an actress in that role, did you find it difficult to draw from Finnick’s relationship with her in the Catching Fire arena and if so how did you overcome that?
Sam: I definitely see where you are coming from. No, but I don’t feel like without a picture in my head, as an actor I necesarily needed that to draw from, if you know what I mean. Obviously from personal experience, I am married and there for my wife was my kind of experience that I could draw from. You know, the love of my life and all that. So I didn’t necessarily need an actress or an image of a person to emotionally inform me, if that makes sense. Definitely I am very excited to get started with Steph Dawson, who is playing Annie Cresta. Finnick spends so much time in the arena, away from her, focusing on mainly protecting Katniss. I don’t feel that it affected my performance necessarily during Catching Fire.
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When you become part of the cast for a franchise as big as the Hunger Games, with such a big fanbase is there a pressure to please a lot of people or do you find that it’s easier when there is already millions of people that love it?
Jena: Well it’s kind of a give and take. I think luckily Sam and I – Sam if I could just speak for you – we were both such fans of the series anyway, that coming in with such love and appreciation for the project, such passion for a project it only propels you forward knowing that there is 100,000 people out there that has the same love and passion. Of course it’s a little terrifying in the morning when you want to make sure that you are getting it right. But fortunately books are two dimensional beings and films are a three dimensional format. We were building things in a whole new way. So there is no way to get it like the book in every way, because books are two dimensional. We are building blood and love and sweat. We’re breathing life into these characters and so I think that they are always going to be better than the books ever imagined them.
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Over the course of filming, you’ve obviously gotten to spend a lot of time with other members of the cast. Who did you really enjoy hanging out with off set, and are there any close bonds you formed that you think will go beyond the films many years into the future?
Jena: The entire cast is so rad, it’s hard to pick one person. We’ve become such a tight-knit family. I kind of fangirled out over Philip Seymour Hoffman, just a little bit. I mean, he’s been one of my favorites, I don’t know.
Sam: Yeah, we all sort of ended up socializing off set as much as we did on set, and there was a lot of fun to be had. And that all kind of spans back to the fact that Francis was very open to ideas and it made it much more of a collaborative family experience, if that makes sense. There was a lot of misbehaving and mischief caused, but, you know, in a very fun way, and we were all able to kind of focus on the job at hand when we needed to. But yeah, I don’t think there was one person I disliked, and if I did, I’d be sure to tell you! (laughter) Actually, I’m not a big fan of Jena, Jena Malone.
Jena: …Jina Mahone or something? She’s a crazer.
Sam: But we all got along like a house on fire. You can’t help but really admire an experience like that really.
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While I sit here and hope Them There Eyes hasn’t been eaten by a bear on her camping adventure, we’re off to the next guest post!
Today, JJ is here to talk about the glorious potential of the Mockingjay Part 1 movie to show us interesting scenes outside of Katniss’ limited point-of-view!
So, an interview blurb came out and some people didn’t like the things Francis Lawrence said about Peeta. This wasn’t the first time, or the hundredth time, and certainly won’t be the last time people get worried or upset by the way Peeta is interpreted/changed/underdeveloped/not included enough in marketing, etc.
But it got me thinking again, how are they going to make Mockingjay Part 1 a movie that a lot of fans don’t hate? Or at the very least, see only once as opposed to their three, four, five PLUS trips to the theater for The Hunger Games?
If filmmakers divide the book about evenly between the two movies, the only scenes with Peeta are a couple of televised appearances.
But wait you say- it’s a movie! We can have new scenes not tied to Katniss’s POV! And this is where I get super excited. With the extra time of having two movies for Mockingjay, there is room to flesh out some of what goes down in the Capitol. Think of the possibilities.
The Aftermath of the Quarter Quell. Could we finally discover what happens to the victors that aren’t rescued to District 13? To Effie? And I’d love to see some initial mind game-heavy scenes between Snow and Peeta or Snow and Johanna. Peeta doesn’t really have any interaction with Snow that we know about up to this point. And is Johanna her defiant self when face to face with Snow?
Peeta and Johanna bonding in the cellblock. Orange Is the New Black, only about a thousand times more messed up.
The Hijacking. Gulp. I don’t exactly want to see this, and it will be a PG-13 movie so fortunately it can’t get TOO graphic. But I am interested in how the filmmakers interpret these scenes. Will they make it more ambiguous torture so non-book reading audiences are surprised when Peeta attacks Katniss? Or will they assume that most people already know and just flat out show Snow’s intentions?
The Rescue. Very little is revealed about the rescue mission, only that it was “a little too easy.” Details please!
Mockingjay Part 1 has the potential to be the most surprising of all the movies. And I couldn’t be happier about it.
Them There Eyes is off exploring the wilderness this week, which means one thing: GUEST POSTS!
We’ve got a couple of goodies for you, starting off with this one from first time guest writer Fefe! She’s introducing us to a new term and talking about why resemblance isn’t a deciding factor for the characters she loves.
In completely unrelated (but totally related) fandom news, the answer to “Who is the 12th Doctor?” has been answered, and he looks nothing like, well, me. Whovians all over the world have been weighing in on what they wanted from a new Doctor (“a person of color”,” a woman”, “A GINGER!”) all summer and now that the role has been filled we can get to the part I’ve been dreading: the backlash from the unsatisfied.
The hoopla over the next Doctor reminds me of another group of fans we all know and (usually) love; fans of The Hunger Games. See, I told you it was kind of related. Remember when Jennifer and Liam weren’t the exact skin tone we imagined Katniss and Gale would be? Remember when Cinna was (*gasp*) tapped to be played by a black actor? Remember when that all happened again this year when the Catching Fire cast was announced by Lionsgate? There were people who were angry yet again because the actors did not look the way they’d imagined, these critics were those who didn’t think there were enough people of color hired to be a part of the cast.
The opposing fans argued that the looks of the actors tapped to play the characters they had grown to love when reading the series is: “They don’t look like me and I want to be able to see myself in this character I love.” I have a question for you, why? While I can understand occasionally wanting to see oneself represented on screen, I cannot understand why that has to be the case with every TV show or film one watches. I have had many spirited debates with friends about this when discussing the likes of shows on The CW or ABC Family as well as The Hunger Games saga and I never quite get it.
I am black, I am female, and I date women, but I don’t need every character in everything watch to also be a gay black woman for me to enjoy watching them. Some would call me a “Blerd”; a black nerd. I swear I did not just make that word up and it is actually a thing; Google it if you don’t believe me. I am also friends with a lot of Blerds and, as much as I love them, I am constantly frustrated by some of their points of view. They tend to get up in arms the “feel left out” and because they don’t think there are enough representations of them on shows and in films they watch. I in turn get frustrated trying to argue that sometimes even characters resembling me tend to be the characters I like least. For the record, the lesbian women of color, like me, on True Blood and Pretty Little Liars, to me are unlikable and I sometimes mute the telly when they are on screen. Should I enjoy a character more by virtue of a shared resemblance? A character’s race, gender, and sexual orientation have little to with my identifying with a character as I am more about the depth of that character than the surface qualities.
While reading The Hunger Games series I liked to imagine I could have been Katniss Everdeen or Johanna Mason. I wanted to believe that I could be the face of a rebellion and that there could be something that I believed in so strongly about that I would be brave enough to risk everything, including my life for. When the actresses hired to play the parts of these characters who from their book descriptions could have been a person of color turned out to be white women, I lost no love or respect for them or what they did in the books and did not admire them any less because the actress playing the part didn’t look like me. My friends argued that Collins’ description of Katniss meant she could have been played by an African-American or Native American and casting Jennifer Lawrence left some fans disappointed that she was another case of Hollywood whitewashing. They felt hurt that because Katniss/Collins did not specifically say I am black or I am Latina that meant by default she was to be played by a white actress.
It comes down to this: Katniss had to be played by someone and that someone turned out to be a great actress. Ultimately, these friends of mine accepted Jennifer Lawrence because hey, who doesn’t love Jennifer? (For the record if you don’t love her, I wouldn’t admit it out loud or on Twitter, talk about backlash.) I asked my fellow Blerds if they were pleased when Jeffrey Wright and Maria Howell were picked to play Tributes in the 75th Hunger Games and they were. They were pleased they were going to see themselves represented and even happier because unlike the stereotypical move in a movie, Beetee and Seeder don’t die right away. Oh well, at least there’s that I told them. Boring old that, because how uninteresting to only watch things that have characters just like you living their lives just like you (well, if you lived in a dystopian future and were on a nationally televised reality show where you had to kill to live)? I am a self-proclaimed TV & film addict, and if I only watched shows featuring a chick that goes to classes, writes papers, and spends most her time at her call center job I’d be bored, like, Episode One bored
Personally, I am most looking forward to Catching Fire to see my favorite character, Johanna, from the series come to life on screen, and I could not care less that Jena Malone does not look just like me. I just want to see her sashay into that elevator and swing that axe because those are actions I most want to try in real life.
Okay… this may sound weird but… We need to know if we’re going to see Jena Malone naked in November. Okay, not actually naked, but in an on-screen situation that seriously implies nudity. It’s driving us crazy!
When District 7′s Johanna Mason introduces herself to the readers in Catching Fire, she sets the tone stripping down in the middle of the elevator to psych out the ever uptight Katniss. It’s there for a little shock value, but it shows that she’s not intimidated by the other Victors and she’s probably got a better handle on the Capitol lifestyle to boot. It’s also a great moment of differentiation between Katniss, who is mortified, and Peeta, who laughs at the situation because he’s adapted a little better and doesn’t let Johanna ruffle his feathers.
And we have no idea whether or not it’s going to happen. We think so. We’re pretty sure. Kinda.
It’s not that Jena Malone hasn’t been asked about it. She was asked. A lot. But she gave basically the same answer every time. Something along the lines of “What’s great about this film is that Francis Lawrence worked really closely with Suzanne Collins, so we’re very true to the book and the core of the story.”
This could be Jena saying two things: “Yup, I’m totes naked” or “My character does a helluva lot more than get naked in the books, so stop being getting so damn obsessed with that one scene.” Maybe both! Truthfully, we just can’t be sure. And maybe we shouldn’t care, but the moment actually has some interesting context, not just bare skin.
Also, it would be a glorious “fuck you” to that parent review site who cited a quick shot of Jennifer Lawrence’s bare leg from the knee down in The Hunger Games’ speed bathing scene as “some inappropriate nudity” back when the first film came out. We’ll show you real inappropriate nudity!
And why not say one way or the other? Were the actors, particularly Jena, told to keep mum on the scene? Or did she decide it would more fun for the fans to guess? Either way, good move. We’re intrigued. NOW TELL USSSSSSS!
Let’s Face It. Johanna Will Look Hot Either Way,
The Girl With The Pearl
Welcome to another trailer reaction post! If you’ve never seen one of these before, the Victor’s Village gang gets together whenever there’s a big reveal or event to discuss in detail, which typically melts down to insanity!
These posts are spoilery, likely typo filled, and LONG, therefore you’ll find most of it under the cut! Enjoy!
THE PUNCTUATION OF DOOM
The Girl With The Pearl: All right! Let’s start off with the first shot of the trailer…
TGWTP: VICTORS’ VILLAGE
Twiffidy: Yes! I cheered when they showed that.
Them There Eyes: They made it possessive plural.
TGWTP: I feel the need to change the punctuation everywhere on the site. But then our matches Suzanne Collins, so I won’t. I guess it depends on how you interpret it? Maybe Suzanne WANTED it to be a village for each individual victor? LOL
Them There Eyes: my screen was stuck on that frame for about an hour…. because Yahoo! Movies was being a dick. You can see my frustration being expressed in my Twitter feed. It was glorious.
Twiffidy: LOL I’m just wondering how that change came about. Was there someone really nitpicky about grammar in the production design team?
TGWTP: There must have been! They probably went back and forth with Suzanne on it, too!
Them There Eyes: Perhaps….
TGWTP: Also, I named our site after a ghetto. Starting to feel like I’m full of poor choices…
Twiffidy: It looks very dreary English
Them There Eyes: Ghetto… no way. Ghetto needs some put upon Jewish people living 8 to a room.
TGWTP: I wasn’t necessarily going for World War II ghetto, but the drift is there lol
Them There Eyes: I’ve said it a million billion times, it looks like 19th century/ Victorian era England… which is brilliant considering so many people pictured Victor’s Village to be ultra modern, and high end looking. Instead they’re probably some of the oldest standing buildings in the District.
Twiffidy: And compared to the Seam, it must be ultra modern.
Them There Eyes: I dunno, The Seam seemed (ha), to be mostly shacks from the Teens and ’20s in style. The Victorian era, style wise pre-dates the Seam in that sense then.
TGWTP: Katniss is essentially walking into a Victorian horror novel!
Twiffidy: Also did you notice the scene following with Katniss and Prim is in Victors’ Village? I always assumed it was in the forest.
Them There Eyes: Yes… poor girls trying to forage in the Village. There is no life in that place…
Twiffidy: Imagine Haymitch lived there all by himself for YEARS
Them There Eyes: No wonder he started drinking. I personally can’t wait to see if they keep Haymitch’s place a total sty.
FORGET MOCKINGJAYS… WHERE ARE THE GIANT BABIES?!
TGWTP: Moving on, I’m so impressed by the imagery in this trailer, especially art as a form of protest. That Mockingjay in the train tunnel? I NEARLY CRIED.
Them There Eyes: Yes… I think we can all agree that we let out a collective gasp when we saw that Mockingjay painted in the tunnel. That, or got shivers.
Twiffidy: It’s a great issue to present since, of course, the creativity in the districts and artistic expression would very much have been stifled
Them There Eyes: It’s pastry flowers and knitted stolls… that is the extent of artistic expression in the Districts.
TGWTP: I hope there’s more. Like Banksy art of crazy proportions.
Them There Eyes: A giant baby painted on a wall in District 7?
TGWTP: Why not?!
Them There Eyes: No, no… giant baby with a white beard!
In two days, we will have a new trailer for The Hunger Games: Catching Fire presented during a panel with the stars at Comic-Con! After going so long with only intermittent Catching Fire news, these last couple weeks are almost enough to make us SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUST! …Though, if we predict the combustion, how spontaneous is it, really?
We’ve already got a couple great new stills to get our blood flowing, but the trailer will be the real deal, but there are still some things we haven’t seen yet that could make this trailer beyond awesome! Therefore, we present…
THE COMIC CON CATCHING FIRE TRAILER AS EDITED BY VICTOR’S VILLAGE
Katniss vs. President Snow - Though we’re struck with the fear that the Snow and Plutarch scenes from the first trailer will replace the Katniss / Snow showdown that kicks off the Catching Fire books, we’re still hoping to see a scene of confrontation where we learn that this isn’t just politics. It’s personal!
Wedding Fever and Horror - It would take about 10 seconds of trailer time to juxtaposed The Capitol’s wedding fever with the reality of what’s being pushed upon Katniss and Peeta. And it would be a helluva emotional 10 seconds. Wedding mentions without both side of the coin just will not cut it on our book.
Danger in the Arena - That’s right. None of this “Save the arena for later” business! Lionsgate had already “announced” The Quarter Quell. ARENA SCENES FOR ALL! They can be quick little flashes, but we better see the ocean pedestals or crazed monkeys or nerve gas fog or arrows getting shot at force fields. We know the danger of the arena, now we need to feel it!
Introduction of the other Victors, particularly Finnick and Johanna - We’ve seen pictures of the other Victors, now how bout some footage? Let’s see the movie’s take on what Finnick and Johanna are all about! As much as the audience loves Katniss and Peeta, we’re going to need more characters to root for. This will be the perfect chance to make us do just that!
Peeta - APPEASE THE FANGIRLS so that they calm down already! Most of us realize that Peeta will be a major part of at least half the movie whether we see that in the trailer or not, but some of us need a little reassurance. Give it to em! Close-up shots of Josh Hutcherson’s jawline preferable, but not required.
Gale’s New Scene - Anything new that’s specifically added in for character development is always intriguing to us. We want a glimpse of new goodness to come! Then maybe the fans can see and hopefully appreciate why they added it in.
What about you, fellow Tributes? Want do you want… Nay! NEED to see in the new trailer?
The Girl With The Pearl