News Bits from the Lionsgate Q1 Call

On Friday, Lionsgate had their Fiscal 2016 Q1 Conference Call. Usually this brings at least some interesting bits, so we gave it a listen for some Hunger Games-related news.

Here it is… ALL THE BIG NEWS

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Sure the Exhibition ticket sales were good, but what about the Buttercup sales?

The Hunger Games Exhibition had record sales in the first week of open for Discovery Times Square. (Mentioning only the first week of sales sounds suspicious to us considering it’s been open for 5 weeks but anyway we like the Exhibition, so we’ll believe you when you say others are visiting en masse). The 2nd stop of the tour in San Francisco, was also mentioned.

The global Mockingjay Part 2 marketing campaign has launched with an incredible response (YES WE LIKE TO RESPOND TO THINGS) and November will have the company’s largest day and date theatrical launch in their history.

The Odyssey, which will have creative leadership from Francis Lawrence and Nina Jacobson, will be a multi-movie deal “in the vein of The Lord of the Rings.” This is somewhat expected, because no one just makes ONE movie these days. FRANCHISES, man. It’s what all the cool (money making) kids do.

And that was pretty much it. Slim pickings. Granted, it’s just a Q1 call, but really, THAT’S IT?

Unfortunately, that’s it.

JJ

Going Back For The Cat (Or Dog)

So today we’re going to get serious because we work out all our feelings by relating them to books!

This is an apology to a fictional character– more specifically, Primrose Everdeen.

At the Mockingjay Part 2 panel at Comic-Con, Conan O’Brien joked with Willow Shields, saying “I was so mad at you when you went back for the cat!” And mostly, our reaction was “Well.. duh.” It was a rash, irresponsible move made by a young girl who’s almost too sensitive for this world. Buttercup was an adult cat and hell, cats don’t even live that long. Why would anyone risk anything for a cat?! Katniss, while we loves her sister, thinks she’s an overly sentimental piece of work when it comes to this issue and audiences kinda do too.

Well, I’m sorry, Prim. It’s unfair to judge you because I really do understand.

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This picture is roughly 17 years, 8 months old. I’m 10-years-old– hence the bad hair, fashion, etc. The puppy here is Jake, my family’s Jack Russell Terrier who died of old age this past Sunday, four days before my 28th birthday. He was the best dog ever… though perhaps I’m biased.

And truthfully, I totally would’ve gone back from him in an emergency situation.

It’s not that uncommon. In scary situations, people rescue their pets. They sometimes get injured or even die themselves in the attempt. To some, that just sounds crazy, but not to me. I don’t consider myself all too sentimental, but pets become an important part of your life in a way that most humans don’t even. They’re a furry ball of friendship, playfulness, and companionship without an ounce of judgment. And dammit, we all need some of that! So risking it all for our animal friends makes sense.

It’s silly to think of the continuum of the story after the final chapter (but before the epilogue) because everything is just head canon from that point on, but we can’t even imagine how Katniss felt when Buttercup finally went. We see the two forming a bond over the loss of Prim at the end of Mockingjay, and I’d like to believe that they stuck together and learned to love each other. That means that things would be rough for Katniss not just because she lost a pet, but because that pet was one of the few things she had that linked back to her sister. And urgh… we can’t even.

Though the most minor of minor characters in The Hunger Games, Buttercup makes a major impact on the plot and the characters’ emotional wellbeing, which says something big. So we get it, Prim. And really, you’re awesome for doing it.

And Without That, There’d Be No Buttercup: Evil Overlord Fanon Memes,
The Girl With The Pearl

Is Trailer Peeta the REAL Peeta?

One subject that’s been debated in the fandom since the theatrical trailer release has been… Peeta. Because we will always want to talk about Peeta, and analyze every last detail about this character. It’s what we do. Relating to this particular debate is whether Peeta’s speech in the trailer is out of character for him (Thanks to Satsumarena for bringing this up in our Trailer Reaction post comments).

Peeta says,

Our lives were never ours. They belong to Snow and our deaths too. But if you kill him, Katniss, if you end all of this, all those deaths…they mean something.

peeta trailer 2I think the main question is whether we think Peeta would be encouraging Katniss to kill Snow at this point in the plot. Or even broader, if he would ever encourage killing Snow. Considering the blurry objects in the background, I’m assuming this is in Tigris’s basement. At this point, Peeta has struggled with the deaths that his hijacking episode helped provoke, but felt real remorse and sorrow at it. He was suicidal after this happened. This is after the “Stay with me. Always” kiss in the sewers. All of his energy is being taken up with staying in control so he doesn’t hurt any more people. He’s fighting to get back to his “Real” self in the most stressful of circumstances, but you can see the real Peeta is slowly winning that battle.

Book!Peeta tells Katniss this in Tigris’s basement

I think…you still have no idea. The effect you can have… None of the people we lost were idiots. They knew what they were doing. They followed you because they believed you really could kill Snow.

We know Francis & Co have put book quotes in the movie whenever possible. So why the change? What is it about this reworked version that’s more evocative? And does it make sense for Peeta to say?

Well, first of all, I think Trailer!Peeta’s speech fits better for a trailer, and I think it will work well in the film. And Trailer!Peeta is raising the personal stakes here a bit. When he says OUR lives, I interpret that as his and Katniss’s lives, how their lives and deaths belonged to Snow from the reaping on. And when Peeta speaks of all those deaths, there’s a cut to Finnick fighting the lizard mutts (SO heartbreakingly good there). The reworked version flows so well.

Although worded more strongly in favor of killing Snow in the movie, from the book quote above, Peeta is telling Katniss she should kill Snow for all those who have been lost. And Katniss gets it. She thinks to herself

I don’t know why his voice reaches me when no one else’s can. But if he’s right, and I think he is, I owe the others a debt that can only be repaid in one way.

And then she makes plans to kill Snow.

So what we have here is some nice reworking of the book to help us more clearly see what both Peeta and Katniss are thinking very quickly. Well done.

Movie Peeta is Real Peeta. And we can relax.

JJ

 

GIANT ASS Photographs From The Hunger Games

Hot off the presses: You are not a real Hunger Games collector if you’re not willing to spend your savings on a RIDICULOUSLY LARGE BOOK!

imageSo, Tim Palen’s Photographs From The Hunger Games came out in June. And it was lovely! Though coffee table books aren’t a common thing for us, we couldn’t resist picking it up and reviewing it. You know. For science.

You’d think Tim Palen and Lionsgate and the seller, Assouline, would be happy with the solid response. NOPE! Because holy hell, they’re reportedly making an “Ultimate Edition” that kindly reminds us just how Capitol this shit is!

Are you ready for this?

The “Ultimate Edition” will reportedly be a 2-foot tall display version of the book available for $800.

Maybe we doubt because we don’t know any, but ARE THERE REALLY THAT MANY RICH ASSHOLES RELATED TO THIS FANDOM?! Lawd! We thought the $75 version was expensive! You either have you be obsessed with Hunger Games collectibles or irrationally pretentious to buy this sucker. Because who has a portion of their home that they can just dedicate to the display of an oversized photo book?!

We’d say this has to be some special order thing created for Palen, Lionsgate execs, and maybe the actors to have. BUT NO! Assouline actually sells 2-foot tall photo books, sometimes for much higher prices.

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*blink blink*

Dear Assouline/Palen/Lionsgate/Whoever else is behind this, we love The Hunger Games. Really, we do. And we get that you’re rich enough to throw money at whatever you’d like. But your fandom is not so special that it requires a ridiculous “artsy” product for a niche market. We went through this with the clothing line, too.

You are not a ballet or an opera, you are a three-ring circus trying really hard to look like ballet or opera. STAWP.

Planning on buying the $800 display book? Be our guest! Fandom is a multi-billion dollar industry after all. We’ve all spent more than we probably realize on fandom. But, you know, this time you’re gonna REALIZE IT and maybe even realize that sometimes, you’re just getting suckered into unnecessary products. If you’re cool with that, cool.

Where The Heck Are You Going To Hang That Up?!
The Girl With The Pearl

REACTION POST: MockingJay Part 2 Trailer #2

We have another trailer, so you know what that means! It’s time for a Victor’s Village reaction post!

This one starts off on a bit of a sad note– You’ll notice that Them There Eyes is no longer with us. She’s stepped away from the Internet for a while to focus on some real life commitments, but we still love her to death and wish her all the best!

As for JJ and The Girl With The Pearl, We March Together with you through the glorious battlefield of fandom (See what we did there?!) And so, the reaction post goes on!

Be aware that this baby contains spoilers if you haven’t read the books! Also, there’s lots to it, so be sure to hit the “READ MORE” link if you’re viewing from the main page!

WHY ARE WE MARCHING?!

The Girl With The Pearl: Let’s start with this: The trailer has a name, which is not always something we’ve seen in the past. What do you think of We March Together?

Are we referring to this *cough* TOTALLY NATURAL marching scene?

Are we referring to this *cough* TOTALLY NATURAL marching scene?

JJ: Eh, it’s got that revolution vibe, which is good. And there is that scene of Katniss strutting down to “get” Snow. But… is does it add much to the actual trailer? Not sure. It feels like something they did to track views better online actually.

TGWTP: Being the picky bastard that I am, I couldn’t help but think about how they NEVER march together

JJ: Lol. But Paylor wants them too.

TGWTP: All these District are essentially using the same guerilla warfare tactics. No marching! Katniss sure never marched anywhere with anyone

JJ: Katniss doesn’t march with anyone, you’re right. It’s more of an afterthought of something that sounds good for trailer title.

TGWTP: It should be called We Want To March Together, then! Though it doesn’t have the same ring to it.

JJ: Marching together is for winners!

THE SNOW-DOWN

The greenhouse! The mansion in the distance! Hoooooly....

The greenhouse! The mansion in the distance! Hoooooly….

TGWTP: But I suppose the title doesn’t matter, because man… did this start with Snow’s final conversation with Katniss?!

JJ: Yes, I think they did. That’s one of the amazing thing about both the teaser and this trailer. They mush the timeline all around, yet it presents the story beautifully!

TGWTP: It’s not something non-readers would recognize, but for books fans… OOF! You can hear the raggedness of his voice, plus the image of Katniss approaching the greenhouse…

JJ: If you’ve got Donald Sutherland, use that’s man’s voice for all it’s worth. What a chilling open.

RECITING AND RECYCLING

TGWTP: And then we get Paylor, which is just so welcome. I kinda worry that characters like hers will be written off, but she’s prominent in a trailer!

Pay attention! Paylor knows what's up!

Pay attention! Paylor knows what’s up!

JJ: I love that they are building her up. In the books, we don’t really see her rise because it happens away from Katniss, but I like how they’re really going to show her as a leader. Will make the ending make a lot more sense. And it was a great way to explain the plot of the movie quickly too.

TGWTP: Yes! We saw the tar before, now the people who haven’t read the books know what that’s about. And it establishes Paylor as a tactical leader.

JJ: Just in those few secs of her speech it solidifies her credibility as a leader. Good stuff

TGWTP: I did kinda laugh at the beginning of her speech though, because we get a quick look at Plutarch, Effie, and Haymitch– our only look at all three from this trailer– and it’s THE SAME CUT from the last trailer. We couldn’t find three different shots of those three?!

JJ: Yeah, bah, come on! There were a bunch of those reused shots.

TGWTP: Oh, I get that. We got plenty of recycling of scenes but that was so very obvious because it was a montage-y sequence.

THE FUTURE STARTS WITH REFERENCES OF BOOK LOVERS

JJ: But can we talk about the timing of when she talks about THE FUTURE STARTS TOMORROW.

TGWTP: YES. YES WE CAN. Because we see the future there! *flails*

The moment at which we all squealed!

The moment at which we all squealed!

JJ: That was just for us fans. Thanks to whoever cut that. You could think that was just a natural thing… but WE KNOW. A lot of the trailer has those type of fan-friendly moments. So thanks, guys!

TGWTP: Yes, somebody definitely said “Let’s throw THIS in here real quick for the big fans.”

TGWTP: And there were a couple moments where everything was combined to inflict maximum hurt, so let’s discuss those. Katniss talks about nothing good being safe while Snow is alive as she dances with Prim.

JJ: Yup, another moment taken from the teaser, but understandable since it’s the core of what she’s fighting for. And we need to make that end hurt more.

TGWTP: Gale talking about how Katniss needs to make her one shot count. URGH. That got to me.

JJ: Oooh, I didn’t pick up on that.

Tigris' hair: Cockblocking Gale's lines since last week

Tigris’ hair: Cockblocking Gale’s lines since last week

TGWTP: It’s very quick. She says she only has one shot. He says “Let’s make it count”

JJ: Oh yes, when he’s in Tigris’s shop. I was distracted by Tigris’s hair! But “making it count.” Ugh.

TGWTP: Exactly. Those are probably two different scenes (and yes, it’s Tigris!) but they’re blended for the best effect to reference Coin’s death later.

JJ: Messing with the timeline again! But it works. Then you have Peeta’s part.

TGWTP: I think it’s NO COINCIDENCE that they’re showing lizard mutts while Peeta is talking about Snow owning their deaths and how the deaths matter if Katniss defeats Snow.

JJ: “Our lives were never ours…” *tears* Finnick battling the lizards was a great shot.

TGWTP: That is an incredible line. Screenwriting prowess, ftw!

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Sam Claflin Lets Us #AskFinnick and It Made Our Friday

Sam Claflin QAWe’re still processing all the amazingness from yesterday’s Mockingjay Part 2 theatrical trailer but a full trailer reaction post will be coming this weekend. In the meantime, we got a treat today thanks to @LionsgateUK and Sam Claflin with a little twitter Q&A. As with any Twitter Q&A with the fandom, there is a lot of spam with people repeatedly asking the same questions (STOP THAT) and the hilariousness of the Lionsgate account tweeting some fan accounts with very “fandom” names.

Here are some of the highlights.

If he could play any other character in the Hunger Games:

Softball question, but we’re with you, Sam.

As for his favorite part of yesterday’s trailer:

Well, he’s certainly being gracious about those lizards, considering they bite off Finnick’s head. But it looks like Finnick will go out heroicly from the way he’s taking them down in the trailer.

What did he think of the Hunger Games Exhibition?

I may have included this response because @cuddlyjoshifer asked it and it makes me smile. But we agree on this one too!

On his training to fight those nasty lizards in Mockingjay Part 2:

Killing lizard mutts with a trident, nbd.

Favorite quote from Finnick:

Moving past the account name asking that one too… A great, meaningful line that has stayed with us from the first reading.

Can he picture Finnick as being the Mockingjay?

Attn: fanfic writers you have a new prompt.

Did he keep anything from set?

Thanks @sassyjoshifer.

How did he injure himself on set THIS TIME (he got hurt filming Catching Fire, but this question seems a little mean lol):

Ouch. Reminder of the pain these actors go through to bring your beloved book characters to life.

On Finnick’s inspiration to fight:

This is incredibly sweet, and we agree.

What district would SAM live in?

We really love this, District 14, cause he lives in the UK!

If he could be a superhero:

Hahaha people, so clever.

On any behavior/character traits of Finnick rubbing of on him:

Things are getting silly now and we’re loving it.

His favorite thing about Finnick:

Now we’re on to more serious matters. That switch from silly to serious & genuine seems to fit both Sam and Finnick well.

And finally, was the wedding scene fun to shoot?

I don’t know, that dancing looked pretty lovely to us.

Just one final question from us… can we have cast/crew Q&A’s every week?

JJ

The Mockingjay Part 2 Trailer Will Blow Your Fandom-Loving Mind

The countdown is over! The trailer is here! IT IS OFFICIALLY TIME TO FLIP OUT!

It’s been two weeks since the first full Mockingjay Part 2 trailer was previewed at Comic-Con (that previous 2 minute preview was considered a “teaser”) and now, the rest of us are finally getting a glimpse of the action. And damn, is there action! We were pretty psyched with the last trailer, but Katniss and her crew have never been more intense than what we’re getting here!

Expect a full trailer breakdown soon. Today we’ll be too busy watching and re-watching to firmly express our thoughts without melting into fangirl mode!

What do you think of this latest trailer?!

Time for a -Revised- Trailer Countdown (3 Days!)

So about that Mockingjay Part 2 trailer on Friday, July 24th news… Today Nina  Jacobson and the Hunger Games Social Accounts messed with our heads a little by posting these announcements.

First Nina tweeted this:

3 Days? That means Thursday, right? *Counts on fingers to confirm.*

We figured she may have posted it a day early or something. No big deal.

But then came this one:

One tweet can just be a simple error, but 2? Now we’re convinced. So the trailer is coming on Thursday. One day earlier. We’re cool with that. But we have to wonder what went wrong here. Did they not think we would interpret a teaser video released on Friday that said ONE WEEK to mean it would happen next Friday? Did they just now realize that Friday (especially in the summer) is a really weird day to release a trailer? Or did they decide over the weekend to move things up because the Mexican film distributor is getting trigger happy releasing unauthorized screenshots from it?

We don’t really care which day Lionsgate releases the trailer this week, but please give us maybe a day’s notice to prepare ourselves emotionally. We think we’re gonna need that.

Come on, Thursday! (?)

JJ

Time for Another Trailer Countdown (One Week!)

We got the happiest of news today. The Mockingjay Part 2 theatrical trailer will debut next Friday, July 24th. And we got a little tease of it too.

The joy is real. We’ve got to break this down.

The tease is full of familiar sights, but with a twist. Here we see the great vista of the Capitol. But all is not well. The Capitol is burning.

the capitol burning

Then we get epic strolling Katniss shots from the teaser trailer.

Iconic katniss walk

Then the squad strolling down a clearly damaged Capitol promenade.

the capitol stroll

A call back to previous trailers and films – Katniss looking down…

Katniss looks down

And getting her last rose from President Snow. Should we be sentimental?

ROSE

AHHHH the squad getting chased by weird Capitol shit.

Chased by Capitol shit

Finished with our girl aiming that arrow for the perfect last shot.

Iconic final shot

The trailer reviews from Comic Con were very positive, so we knew there was something good coming. We’ll probably be getting a few more teases next week, but it’s looking epic.

6 and 5/8 days to go.

JJ

Joy and The Dressmaker

With all the promotion coming out just now, sometimes we don’t totally remember that Mockingjay filming is loooooong over and the cast has since moved on and filmed other projects– Movies that will come out not longer after Mockingjay Part 2, even.

…And then, BOOM! TRAILERS!

First comes Jennifer Lawrence’s Joy.

It’s another David O. Russell collaboration (with Bradley Cooper and Robert DeNiro), which we like for the most part. We don’t drink the David O. Russell kool-aid quite as often as Hollywood does these days, Silver Linings Playbook was an incredible movie and we’re never totally disappointed by his films.

Argh, Jen. She’s just so good! People worried about her playing an older character, BUT NO. She’s got it just fine, thank you very much! We’ve seen her play a badass before, but this is a different kind of badass and we think it’ll be a really refreshing piece of entertainment.

The trailer also does a great job setting up the story of Joy Mangano, a single mother who slowly rose through the ranks to become a major business mogul and learned some hard lessons along the way.

Then we’ve got Liam Hemsworth in The Dressmaker.

Clearly, this is Kate Winslet’s movie. It’s a bit romantic and Hemsy is there to be the man of the hour / swoony eye candy. But damn, it works.

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Observe!

We realized something about this movie that we love– It’s the first movie we can think of in which Liam seems to be portraying an actual adult. He’s been in action movies, romantic movies, crime thrillers, but he’s always been the up-and-coming kid. This time, his character looks older, acts older (from what we saw here), and nobody references him as the kid rising through the ranks. Is he actually… playing his around his own age?! IN HOLLYWOOD?! *faints*

If romantic dramas are your cup of tea, this looks like a perfectly cute film to watch. There’s some great actors in there and seeing Liam stretch himself a bit more than his previous film roles have allowed could be fun. Hell, maybe he’ll even be a plausible romantic lead this time! Not to say that he’s not plausible in a romantic coupling, just that most of the other movies he’s been in haven’t had convincing couplings from the scripting stage on.

So yes, BE EXCITED ABOUT MOCKINGJAY PART 2 stuff! But we love seeing the cast in other things too. And these trailer are kinda big deals to us!

Let’s Be Excited About ALL THE THINGS!
The Girl With The Pearl